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Nakago Yaiba Hokage
Posts : 247 Join date : 2013-04-30 Age : 31 Location : Somewhere over the rainbow...
Character sheet Name: Nakago Yaiba Elements: Wind, Fire, Earth Fighting Styles: Ninjutsu Master, Fuinjutsu Master, Taijutsu Master, Iryojutsu Master
| Subject: Items Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:40 pm | |
| - Kishin wrote:
- I reworked the items as well, to make it work more limited for just Buki and Kujutsu users (and fuuin). Before you guys were saying something about making the materials in here have some sort of an stat or stress level or something. I am thinking of reworking the metals and woods to give a constitution stat HP type thingy.
Though it is going to be basic, so something like 15/8 Constitution per metal/wood down the list. With metal starting at 20 for iron.
Bad idea or good idea? Might be to advanced/chaotic. Though would make sense for puppetry defeating, and weapon cutting or something.
- New shop setup:
- Quote :
~Miscellaneous Items
Mouth flint | 300 Yen Grappling Hook | 2,500 Yen Torch | 1,000 Yen Lantern | 2,500 Yen Bedroll | 1,000 Yen Lighter | 500 Yen Water Canteen | 300 Yen Rope | 1,000 Yen per 15ft Electronic Devices (Communications, Tracking, Scopes, Motors, etc) | 150,000 Yen per device
~Weapons Small Reg Shuriken | 500 Small Regular Kunai | 500 Yen
~Medical Equipment ~Note: Pills which are taken in a short amount of time will result in an Over Dose (Maximum of two pills)
Medic Kit (includes: Flashlight, x2 Rolls of bandages, x 4 Pack of gauze, x4 syringes, x4 empty blood test tubes, x4 blood replenishing pills, x2 jars w/preservative fluid, scalpel, x4 Pain Killer Pills [C-rank]) | 10,000 Yen Healing Ointment (Recovers wounds faster) | 8,000 Yen Morphine | 12,000 Yen Blood Recover Pills x5 (Replenishes 1/5 blood lost) | 5,000 Yen Military Ration Pills x5 (Recovers 50% of chakra lost) | 10,000 Yen Coagulation Pills x5 (Stops bleeding) | 10,000 Yen Bandage Wrap | 1,000 Yen Syringe | 1,000 Yen Pack of Gauze | 1,000 Yen Test tube | 2,500 Yen Jar of Preservative Liquid | 5,000 Yen
Basic Scroll (holds five items) | 2,500 Yen Medium Scroll (holds ten items) | 5,000 Yen Large Scroll (holds twenty items) | 10,000 Yen Huge Scroll (holds fifty items) | 15,000 Yen Massive Scroll (holds 100 items) | 20,000 Yen Giant Scroll (holds 1,000 items) | 30,000 Yen
Other Materials- Water Resistant Paper| 10,000 Yen Fire Resistant Paper | 10,000 Yen Senju Paper (Conducts Chakra at 50% the Cost)| 25,000 Yen Fire resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen Water resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen
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Basic
~Common Ninja Tools/Explosives
Shuriken | 500 Yen - Giant Shuriken | 4,000 Yen - Fuuma Shuriken | 8,000 Yen Kunai | 500 Yen Senbon | 200 Yen Makibishi Caltrops | 50 Yen Steel Metal Wire (per meter) | 100 Yen Explosive Tag (Five meter blast radius) | 1,500 Yen Flash Bomb | 850 Yen Smoke Bomb | 850 Yen - Poisonous Smoke bomb (Sleeping Gas) | 3,000 Yen Chili Pepper Bomb | 600 Yen Chakra Sealing Tag | 15,000 Yen
~Swords
Katana | 20,000 Yen Daikatana | 25,000 Yen Wakizashi | 15,000 Yen Tanto | 7,500 Yen Chokuto | 18,000 Yen Kunai Blade | 16,000 Yen Dao | 8,000 Yen Cleaver Sword | 22,000 Yen Ninjato | 14,000 Yen
~European Weaponry
Hand Axe | 4,000 Yen War Axe | 9,000 Yen Battle Axe | 13,500 Yen Dagger | 1,000 Yen Short Sword | 8,000 Yen Long Sword | 16,000 Yen Broad Sword | 18,000 Yen Claymore | 22,000 Yen Light Mace | 3,500 Yen Heavy Mace | 8,000 Yen Flail | 9,500 Yen War Hammer | 7,500 Yen Maul | 16,000 Yen Hailberg | 16,000 Yen
~Exotic Ninja Tools
Sickle | 5,000 Yen Kusarigama | (15 foot chain) 12,000 Yen - Spiked Ball Kusarigama | 15,000 Yen Bo Staff | 1,000 Yen Spiked/Razor Chain (15 foot Chain) | 6,500 Yen Chigi-riki | 6,000 Yen Naginata | 14,000 Yen Neko-te x2 | 16,000 Yen Blowgun | 500 Yen - Iron darts | 150 Yen Spear | 12,000 Yen Kanabo | 18,000 Yen Nunchucks | 6,000 Yen Trench Knife | 5,000 Yen
Aesthetics / Storage Holster | 1000 Yen Scabbard | 1500 Yen Bag | 1000 Yen Wraps | 1000 Yen Reels | 1000 Yen Keychain | 200,000,000,000 Yen Briefcase | 500 Yen Straps (Belt, shoulder, arm, etc.) | 250 Yen
Wood- Pine| 500 Yen Cherry| 10,000 Yen Birch| 8,000 Yen Oak| 12,000 Yen Drift Wood| 6,000 Yen Elm| 5,000 Yen Willow| 9,000 Yen Hickory| 5,000 Yen Balsa| 8,000 Yen Bamboo| 15,000 Yen Red Wood| 30,000 Yen Petrified Wood| 40,000 Yen Iron Wood| 50,000 Yen
Metals- These are metals you can use to create your weaponry whether it's kunai, shuriken, or whatever... Note: If you do not add a specific Metal, any metal weapon you have will be made of Iron, which is our basic metal here. If your weapon breaks, you can buy more iron to get it repaired, though you'll have to find a Blacksmith to help you (or buy a new weapon).
Iron| 500 Yen Lead | 800 Yen Steel | 10,000 Yen Copper | 8,000 Yen Surgical Steel | 12,000 Yen Tungsten | 14,000 Yen Silver | 35,000 Yen Gold | 50,000 Yen Titanium | 80,000 Yen Platinum | 100,000 Yen
Other Materials- Cloth| 500 Yen Paper| 200 Yen Glass | 5,000 Yen Hard Plastic | 5,000 Yen Soft Plastic | 4,000 Yen Leather | 7,000 Yen Rubber | 8,000 Yen Animal Fur | 10,000 Yen
Specific Components: Metal Wire / Cording | 5,000 Yen per 15ft Metal Chain | 8,000 Yen per 15ft Electronic Devices (Communications, Tracking, Scopes, Motors, etc) | 150,000 Yen per device Detonators | 5,000 Yen Chakra Receivers | 70,000 Yen (Disrupts chakra, can be used for basic messages, tracking) Chemical Containers | 3000 Yen Liquids (Oils, glue, etc) | 4000 Yen Piping (Air compression, water compression, etc.) | 4000 Yen
Chakra Absorption | + 250,000 up to 1,500,000 Yen: Small – 250,000 Yen : Up to C-rank Medium – 750,000 Yen : Up to B-rank Large – 1,500,000 Yen : Up to A-rank Metals- Edotite (conducts chakra at 50% the cost) | 500,000 Yen Wood- Senju Tree Wood (Conducts Chakra at 50% the Cost)| 100,000 Yen Other Materials- Water Resistant Paper| 10,000 Yen Fire Resistant Paper | 10,000 Yen Senju Paper (Conducts Chakra at 50% the Cost)| 25,000 Yen Fire resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen Water resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen
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| | | Keiri_Okami
Posts : 107 Join date : 2013-07-08
| Subject: Re: Items Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:14 pm | |
| I'm personally against making items exclusive to Bukijutsu and Kujutsu users. If I want to buy something, and I have the money, I should be able to buy it. I don't think a shop owner would say, "Yar, Captain of the ANBU! Sorry, you can't buy this explosive tag! You don't have skill in Bukijutsu or Kujutsu!" | |
| | | Admin Jounin
Posts : 391 Join date : 2013-04-30
| Subject: Re: Items Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:29 pm | |
| I like the new idea abut the Constitution for the material types of weaponry! Very unique, and this will help to gauge just how durable it actuallhy is! YES!
However, I agree with Keiri about the limiting issue. Anyone should be able to use weapons to a small degree, as it is taught in the academy for kids to use frekkin throwing weapons! It's basic ninja skills! Augh! | |
| | | Ryuji Shinetsu Raikage
Posts : 159 Join date : 2013-06-08
Character sheet Name: Elements: Fire, Wind, Earth Lightning, Scorch Fighting Styles:
| Subject: Re: Items Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:50 am | |
| Agreed, everyone should be able to buy things from the shop. Also, like the idea of actually giving something a defense number | |
| | | Rivu Aiasan Tsuchikage
Posts : 137 Join date : 2013-06-18
Character sheet Name: Rivu Aiasan Elements: Earth Fighting Styles: ----------------- Taijutsu 45----------------------- Bukijutsu 45-------------------- Sensory 45----------------------- Ninjutsu 31---------------------- Genjutsu 11----------------------
| Subject: Re: Items Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:51 pm | |
| Anyone should be able to use shuriken or kunai in the same way that even with a 0 in Ninjutsu, you may use C rank techniques. You can carry a sword with a Bukijutsu level of 0, but you won't be as good.
Constitution increases would be awesome as well for if/when we allow people to make armor like they can weapons. | |
| | | Nakago Yaiba Hokage
Posts : 247 Join date : 2013-04-30 Age : 31 Location : Somewhere over the rainbow...
Character sheet Name: Nakago Yaiba Elements: Wind, Fire, Earth Fighting Styles: Ninjutsu Master, Fuinjutsu Master, Taijutsu Master, Iryojutsu Master
| Subject: Re: Items Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:51 pm | |
| Okay, take off Bukijutsu restrictions to having weapons, DOne. | |
| | | Keiri_Okami
Posts : 107 Join date : 2013-07-08
| Subject: Re: Items Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:57 pm | |
| Definitely up the prices of all the things that conduct chakra at 50% the cost. Considering they actually give a good boost, I think they would be more expensive. I don't have specific numbers in mind, because I'm not TOO familiar with our current money system, but they seem pretty cheap for their effect. | |
| | | Nakago Yaiba Hokage
Posts : 247 Join date : 2013-04-30 Age : 31 Location : Somewhere over the rainbow...
Character sheet Name: Nakago Yaiba Elements: Wind, Fire, Earth Fighting Styles: Ninjutsu Master, Fuinjutsu Master, Taijutsu Master, Iryojutsu Master
| Subject: Re: Items Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:43 pm | |
| I think the current exchange of Yen to the dollar is a 100:1 ratio, as in 100 yen = 1 American dollar, making mass produced regular kunai and shuriken 5 bucks, basically. | |
| | | Nakago Yaiba Hokage
Posts : 247 Join date : 2013-04-30 Age : 31 Location : Somewhere over the rainbow...
Character sheet Name: Nakago Yaiba Elements: Wind, Fire, Earth Fighting Styles: Ninjutsu Master, Fuinjutsu Master, Taijutsu Master, Iryojutsu Master
| Subject: Re: Items Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:02 am | |
| Kishin mae another thing, I'll copy and paste it here.
Ya I can understand the no weapons thing. Anyone can buy a premade weapon and swing it.(already seeing those with high dex or good rping saying equal to those with weapon ability. That is what mods are for Razz ) Though the construction part of it is debatable.
Below, I changed the shop stuff around to make it acceptable. I added durability to the materials, though it is a mostly arough sketch. I do believe a lot in how a weapon is rped with for breaking and what not, but some things are constant as well.
Most likely, the material a premade weapon is made of is debatable as well, I listed them all as Iron, but surely someone will say Katana is steel or what not. I know some stuff about weapons, but not all things. Same can definitely be said about wood as well, lol.
Shop Stuff: For Everyone: ~Miscellaneous Items
Mouth flint | 300 Yen Grappling Hook | 2,500 Yen Torch | 1,000 Yen Lantern | 2,500 Yen Bedroll | 1,000 Yen Lighter | 500 Yen Water Canteen | 300 Yen Rope | 1,000 Yen per 15ft Electronic Devices (Communications, Tracking, Scopes, Motors, etc) | 150,000 Yen per device
~Medical Equipment ~Note: Pills which are taken in a short amount of time will result in an Over Dose (Maximum of two pills)
Medic Kit (includes: Flashlight, x2 Rolls of bandages, x 4 Pack of gauze, x4 syringes, x4 empty blood test tubes, x4 blood replenishing pills, x2 jars w/preservative fluid, scalpel, x4 Pain Killer Pills [C-rank]) | 10,000 Yen Healing Ointment (Recovers wounds faster) | 8,000 Yen Morphine | 12,000 Yen Blood Recover Pills x5 (Replenishes 1/5 blood lost) | 5,000 Yen Military Ration Pills x5 (Recovers 50% of chakra lost) | 10,000 Yen Coagulation Pills x5 (Stops bleeding) | 10,000 Yen Bandage Wrap | 1,000 Yen Syringe | 1,000 Yen Pack of Gauze | 1,000 Yen Test tube | 2,500 Yen Jar of Preservative Liquid | 5,000 Yen
~Common Ninja Tools/Explosives All ninja tools of metal are made from Iron. Heavier weapons will be cast using 1.5X the amount of iron.
Shuriken | 500 Yen - Giant Shuriken | 4,000 Yen - Fuuma Shuriken | 8,000 Yen Kunai | 500 Yen Senbon | 200 Yen Makibishi Caltrops | 50 Yen Steel Metal Wire (per meter) | 100 Yen Explosive Tag (Five meter blast radius) | 1,500 Yen Flash Bomb | 850 Yen Smoke Bomb | 850 Yen - Poisonous Smoke bomb (Sleeping Gas) | 3,000 Yen Chili Pepper Bomb | 600 Yen Chakra Sealing Tag | 15,000 Yen
~Swords
Katana | 20,000 Yen Daikatana | 25,000 Yen Wakizashi | 15,000 Yen Tanto | 7,500 Yen Chokuto | 18,000 Yen Kunai Blade | 16,000 Yen Dao | 8,000 Yen Cleaver Sword | 22,000 Yen Ninjato | 14,000 Yen
~European Weaponry
Hand Axe | 4,000 Yen War Axe | 9,000 Yen Battle Axe | 13,500 Yen Dagger | 1,000 Yen Short Sword | 8,000 Yen Long Sword | 16,000 Yen Broad Sword | 18,000 Yen Claymore | 22,000 Yen Light Mace | 3,500 Yen Heavy Mace | 8,000 Yen Flail | 9,500 Yen War Hammer | 7,500 Yen Maul | 16,000 Yen Hailberg | 16,000 Yen
~Exotic Ninja Tools
Sickle | 5,000 Yen Kusarigama | (15 foot chain) 12,000 Yen - Spiked Ball Kusarigama | 15,000 Yen Bo Staff | 1,000 Yen Spiked/Razor Chain (15 foot Chain) | 6,500 Yen Chigi-riki | 6,000 Yen Naginata | 14,000 Yen Neko-te x2 | 16,000 Yen Blowgun | 500 Yen - Iron darts | 150 Yen Spear | 12,000 Yen Kanabo | 18,000 Yen Nunchucks | 6,000 Yen Trench Knife | 5,000 Yen
Aesthetics / Storage Holster | 1000 Yen Scabbard | 1500 Yen Bag | 1000 Yen Wraps | 1000 Yen Reels | 1000 Yen Keychain | 200,000,000,000 Yen Briefcase | 500 Yen Straps (Belt, shoulder, arm, etc.) | 250 Yen
For Fuuinjutsu:
Basic Scroll (holds five items) | 2,500 Yen Medium Scroll (holds ten items) | 5,000 Yen Large Scroll (holds twenty items) | 10,000 Yen Huge Scroll (holds fifty items) | 15,000 Yen Massive Scroll (holds 100 items) | 20,000 Yen Giant Scroll (holds 1,000 items) | 30,000 Yen
Other Materials- Water Resistant Paper| 10,000 Yen Fire Resistant Paper | 10,000 Yen Senju Paper (Conducts Chakra at 50% the Cost)| 25,000 Yen Fire resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen Water resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen
Bukijutsu and Kujutsu Materials
All materials have a set constitution or rather, durability. This is basically how much damage they can take before they break or can be broken. Using the same material 2+ times, and applying it in layers can increase the durability by double roughly. Though this also increases the weight by double, reducing dexterity and/or requiring more strength to wield.
Special Note: Some weapons are more made to battle others. Material alone doesn't designate if it will break or not. One would think a sword made of any metal, would cut through an item made of wood. But this isn't true. A sword made of Iron might be able to cut through a staff, but a club made of wood might be able to break a sword made of iron. Even the staff could break the sword, if it is hit at the top of the staff, splitting it, then the staff turned to break the blade. So don't think that everything with a higher durability will split, break, bend, etc. another with a lower durability, think of it as more of a guidance of what how much penetration something sharp might have against something dull, or how much strength it would take to crack it if punched upon.
These numbers should be taken with enemies strength, from the type of damage they are inflicting. If a proper defense is made, with lower numbers, especially with the stronger against forms, chances are the damage will dull the blade, though if enough hits are made at the same spot, especially with it's weakness, it could break the weapon.
Durability numbers: Bash | Pierce | Slash
Adept: Wood- Mild against bash, weak against pierce, strong against slashing. Pine| 500 Yen | 38 |28 | 48 Elm| 5,000 Yen | 45 |35 | 55 Hickory| 5,000 Yen | 45 |35 | 55 Drift Wood| 6,000 Yen | 47 |37 | 57 Birch| 8,000 Yen | 50 | 40 | 60 Balsa| 8,000 Yen | 50 |40 | 60 Willow| 9,000 Yen | 53 | 43 | 63 Cherry| 10,000 Yen | 55 |45 | 65 Oak| 12,000 Yen | 56 |46 | 66 Bamboo| 15,000 Yen | 58 |48 | 68 Red Wood| 30,000 Yen | 60 | 50 | 70 Petrified Wood| 40,000 Yen | 64 |54 | 74 Iron Wood| 50,000 Yen | 68 |58 | 78 |
Metals-Strong against pierce and slash, weak against bash.
These are metals you can use to create your weaponry whether it's kunai, shuriken, or whatever... Note: If you do not add a specific Metal, any metal weapon you have will be made of Iron, which is our basic metal here. If your weapon breaks, you can buy more iron to get it repaired, though you'll have to find a Blacksmith or a Bukijutsu expert with the know-how to craft weapons.
Iron| 500 Yen | 30 | 50 | 50 Lead | 800 Yen | 33 | 53 | 53 Steel | 10,000 Yen | 55 | 75 | 75 Copper | 8,000 Yen |52 | 72 | 72 Surgical Steel | 12,000 Yen |58 | 78 | 78 Tungsten | 14,000 Yen |62 | 82 | 82 Silver | 35,000 Yen |68 | 88 | 88 Gold | 50,000 Yen |70 | 90 | 90 Titanium | 80,000 Yen |88 | 108 | 108 Platinum | 100,000 Yen |98 | 118 | 118
Other Materials- Depends on material, usually medium amongst most forms of attack, but strong against bash. (Glass is weak against most attacks) Paper| 200 Yen | 20 |10 | 10 Cloth| 500 Yen | 38 |28 | 28 Soft Plastic | 4,000 Yen | 55 |35 | 35 Glass | 5,000 Yen | 30 | 30 | 30 Hard Plastic | 5,000 Yen | 59 | 39 | 49 Leather | 7,000 Yen | 55 | 35 | 55 Rubber | 8,000 Yen | 57 | 57 | 57 Animal Fur | 10,000 Yen | 50 | 40 | 40
Specific Components: Metal Wire / Cording | 5,000 Yen per 15ft Metal Chain | 8,000 Yen per 15ft Electronic Devices (Communications, Tracking, Scopes, Motors, etc) | 150,000 Yen per device Detonators | 5,000 Yen Chakra Receivers | 70,000 Yen (Disrupts chakra, can be used for basic messages, tracking) Chemical Containers | 3000 Yen Liquids (Oils, glue, etc) | 4000 Yen Piping (Air compression, water compression, etc.) | 4000 Yen
Experienced Bukijutsu only. Chakra Absorption | + 250,000 up to 1,500,000 Yen: Small – 250,000 Yen : Up to C-rank Medium – 750,000 Yen : Up to B-rank Large – 1,500,000 Yen : Up to A-rank Metals- Edotite (conducts chakra at 50% the cost) | 500,000 Yen | 125 | 145 | 145 Wood- Senju Tree Wood (Conducts Chakra at 50% the Cost)| 100,000 Yen | 85 |75 | 95 Other Materials- Water Resistant Paper| 10,000 Yen | 45 |25 | 25 Fire Resistant Paper | 10,000 Yen | 45 | 25 | 25 Senju Paper (Conducts Chakra at 50% the Cost)| 25,000 Yen | 55 | 35 | 35 Fire resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen | 60 | 40 | 40 Water resistant cloth| 20,000 Yen | 60 | 40 | 40 | |
| | | Rivu Aiasan Tsuchikage
Posts : 137 Join date : 2013-06-18
Character sheet Name: Rivu Aiasan Elements: Earth Fighting Styles: ----------------- Taijutsu 45----------------------- Bukijutsu 45-------------------- Sensory 45----------------------- Ninjutsu 31---------------------- Genjutsu 11----------------------
| Subject: Re: Items Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:11 pm | |
| Unfortunately, there is no way to really tell how effective and balanced this will be without actually using it. However, one thing I want to call attention to is the 5 Military Pills you can buy. For a mere 10,000 yen, or $100, you can essentially use 350% of your stamina in battle (100% + 50% per pill). The cost of something like that should be 150,000 yen for 3, or something to that effect. I'd rather not see someone do a couple D rank missions, pocket all these pills and last forever. | |
| | | Keiri_Okami
Posts : 107 Join date : 2013-07-08
| Subject: Re: Items Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:10 pm | |
| - Rivu Aiasan wrote:
- Unfortunately, there is no way to really tell how effective and balanced this will be without actually using it. However, one thing I want to call attention to is the 5 Military Pills you can buy. For a mere 10,000 yen, or $100, you can essentially use 350% of your stamina in battle (100% + 50% per pill). The cost of something like that should be 150,000 yen for 3, or something to that effect. I'd rather not see someone do a couple D rank missions, pocket all these pills and last forever.
Well, it says that you can't use more than two without overdosing. Rivu has a point, though. Those things are cheap as fuck. | |
| | | Nakago Yaiba Hokage
Posts : 247 Join date : 2013-04-30 Age : 31 Location : Somewhere over the rainbow...
Character sheet Name: Nakago Yaiba Elements: Wind, Fire, Earth Fighting Styles: Ninjutsu Master, Fuinjutsu Master, Taijutsu Master, Iryojutsu Master
| Subject: Re: Items Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:37 pm | |
| I think they were rare in the show. Well, you guys can make edits to that list. Bump up the price, explain on it what overdosing does... | |
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